comanchepilot
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I'm departing POC in IMC - 800OVC, tops at 2700MSL - so the cloud deck is about 1000' ATC clears me to "4000, Bracket 26 departure procedure, PRADO V16 PDZ etc etc etc"
The Brackett 26 procedure is runway heading to 1400, left turn to 130, intercept V363 from POM to PRADO.
So I'm climbing out of about 1700 on my way to 4000 - in the turn to 130 - get shopped to SoCal and get an immediate traffic call out: "90P. traffic. 1 o'clock, 3,500, a VFR King Air.
Immediately after that, out of 2900, I get a traffic alert on my GTX-330, I just broke out of the clouds looking for the traffic and there is he - less than a mile - about 3500.
How can a King Air, or anyone, be VFR at 3500, less than 1000 over the top? How can ATC be enabling that type of activity? The ATIS was stating "tops reported at 2800."
Was there much of a collision risk? Perhaps No. Not really - as long as I stayed on the DP I was moderately safe, and IFR does not guarantee separation from VFR traffic - but I'm transitioning from gauges to visual and he is very definitely NOT VFR.
Am I guaranteed sep from IFR flight planned traffic or traffic talking to ATC that SHOULD be on an IFR flight plan? That playing fast and loose with the rules kind of ****ed me off.
The Brackett 26 procedure is runway heading to 1400, left turn to 130, intercept V363 from POM to PRADO.
So I'm climbing out of about 1700 on my way to 4000 - in the turn to 130 - get shopped to SoCal and get an immediate traffic call out: "90P. traffic. 1 o'clock, 3,500, a VFR King Air.
Immediately after that, out of 2900, I get a traffic alert on my GTX-330, I just broke out of the clouds looking for the traffic and there is he - less than a mile - about 3500.
How can a King Air, or anyone, be VFR at 3500, less than 1000 over the top? How can ATC be enabling that type of activity? The ATIS was stating "tops reported at 2800."
Was there much of a collision risk? Perhaps No. Not really - as long as I stayed on the DP I was moderately safe, and IFR does not guarantee separation from VFR traffic - but I'm transitioning from gauges to visual and he is very definitely NOT VFR.
Am I guaranteed sep from IFR flight planned traffic or traffic talking to ATC that SHOULD be on an IFR flight plan? That playing fast and loose with the rules kind of ****ed me off.
