Flu Shot

[Old Geek]

Do I have to report it?

 

[Jim Logajan]

Well, if you want to omit a visit to a health professional within the preceding three years on your next medical application, you go right ahead. But do so knowing that you are lying on that application and if the FAA finds out, you can lose all your FAA certificates.

You would also be most unwise to try to drink my beer. :nono:

A few moments of research would have shown that your assertion is without solid foundation, as this document claims immunizations are not reportable:

http://www.leftseat.com/AME/immunizations_and_flying.htm

There is also the simple issue that there may be no written patient records for flu shots.

Lastly, if the FAA did try to go after pilot certificates for failures to report flu shots, they'd simply be digging their own political grave. The rest of the medical establishment would hopefully skewer them.

 

[Jim Logajan]

That's straight out of the instructions for the 8500-8, but a vaccination is not listed as a "routine physical examination."

Y'all do what you want. The rules are clear. Violate them at your own risk.

:bye:

Form 8500-8 is not a regulation. It never has been. It may have been written in an attempt to satisfy regulations, but you are making the mistake of thinking it is regulatory and must be literally satisfied.

You need to produce the regulation(s) outside form 8500-8 that supports the information demands it makes of pilots.

 

[Jim Logajan]

Form 8500-8 is not a regulation. It never has been. It may have been written in an attempt to satisfy regulations, but you are making the mistake of thinking it is regulatory and must be literally satisfied.

You need to produce the regulation(s) outside form 8500-8 that supports the information demands it makes of pilots.

My last sentence was written too fast and is unclear even to me. Second try: Find the statutes or regulations that require pilots to answer each of the form 8500-8 questions.

If form 8500-8 were itself regulatory, the FAA would be required by statute to issue NPRMs whenever its questions were updated.

 

[Jim Logajan]

That one's easy as pie.

§67.4

An applicant for first-, second- and third-class medical certification must:

(a) Apply on a form and in a manner prescribed by the Administrator;

Nice find - thank you. Do you think the form becomes an extension of the regulations subject to the NPRM process? Consider if it isn't subject; what prevents the administrator from adding all sorts of "health related" questions, such as:

sexual preference, how many calories you have consumed in the last 30 days, how often and in what manner you exercise, the time and dates of the last 5 headaches you've had, and how often you floss.